Needle Drop Nation Ep 4 | Revolution on the Radio
Hi everybody. Welcome to episode 4 of Needle Drop Nation. This one is entitled The Radio Revolution or Revolution on the Radio. I just mentioned
it's Revolution on the Radio, Nick.
And oh my goodness, Jody, we're in for a treat. This is some of the best music I think ever. It's some genius stuff.
Absolutely. Absolutely. This year, it's the year when, you know, rock was art. It was the emergence of the identity of baby boomers getting into adulthood. And you know, this is, I think, the pinnacle of when baby boomers really articulated politics, music,
style, and it all converged together. And it was a great year because this is when you know you get from Kate Ashberry to Hyde Park and there was a lot of sharing as far as politics, music, fashion, the summer of love. So we're, you know, guys, everybody,
we're in for a treat on this episode. This year is a fantastic year.
It is. And if and we've got, I think about 30 odd tracks on the on the playlist that's accompanying this. Do go check it out because There are some absolutely banging tunes. We're going to be talking our way through some of them, if not most of them. But yeah, they are absolutely brilliant. And of course, 1967, Jodie, we can't go past it without mentioning the Beatles because they played a big part, but we're going to come back to that a little later on. We talk about the revolution on the radio from the UK point of view. It was pirate radio. Radio Caroline was introduced. So, we were offshore broadcasting to the world. out on these little pirate ships. It was It's hard to believe now when you think about how radio is evolved and how it is between both countries and with the internet and we can stream all the time. But in order to get these records, you know, to the youth, to the to the people that really wanted to listen to them, we didn't be at the establishment weren't playing. So, we had nothing the establishment to to play them. So, they had to go and do what we had to do. So, it was like the the necessity, what's the phrase? Necessity is the mother of invention. And so that is why pirate radio was was invented. And the beautiful thing is over the years it then well very quickly became mainstream and all the DJs that were on the boats came over and took over the BBC back in the UK. And so yeah, so it was a godsend for for all the things. But this is cultural revolution at its finest. Now I think it's fair to say Jody there might have been some illegal substances being smoked and taken while this revolution took place
and and it also um enhanced creativity. You know, that was the um essence at the time. I mean, especially with Hate Ashberry, you know, we had artists that were experimenting, you know, the Beatles were there, Jefferson Airplane, if you listen to their music like White Rabbit, where where would
Yeah.
You know, and then and also having this song Somebody to Love and White Rabbit on the same album. You know, there had to be some essence of um experimentation
going on there. Definitely.
Yes. Yes.
So, where where are we going to kick off then? Jody, let's have a a little
So, a lot of the new talking about artists and Jefferson Airplane. There were a lot of artists that finally new artists that landed on the, you know, on the charts in 1967. You know, you've got the Doors.
Oh, one of my favorites.
Exactly.
You know, like go, you know, they made that strip, go whiskey, like a popular place as well. Um, you know, then I think about the Doors. I think about that space also. You know, we've got um also Jimmyi Hendris.
Are you experienced? Yes. And then, you know, I think the song goes purple haze at the year. And then you also have um the Moody Blues. Talk about experimentation and rock in the UK. Um and then We've got some um some bands that formed in 1967 also. Um we got the foundation, you know, from the UK. I know baby now that I found you, which is such a beautiful song. Um we also have um you know, the um the Young Rascals, you know, Grooven. That's a
Yeah, you you've introduced me to them. I wasn't I wasn't really aware of them until you sent me the playlist the other day.
Oh my gosh. You know, it's funny because they kind of remind me of the monkey. And like that that kind of um when you have um a a man band and also the tambourine and the maracas play a play a dominant um you know part in their orchestration which is really interesting and and it's they were very blues heavy too as well. So I just wanted you know the young rascals you also had the birds turn turn which I think had really captured the essence of you know, um, peace, anti-war sentiment, you know, in back in that era in 1967. And
of course, yeah,
yeah, the Vietnam War still thundering along. That lasted a rather long time, didn't it?
It did. It was from um 1965 to 1974.
Wow.
Mhm.
Wow. That was a long time. That's one of the things being being a kid in the UK or especially I was only one it was even to 74 though not really having any any any particular knowledge cuz we don't have the communication like we have now we had no real knowledge or certainly I wasn't aware of of the Vietnam war until you know much later you
when kind of like early history and uh the horrors about what happened
which is interesting yeah because I know that um it was on the news um you know a lot of um um progressive um um newsmen um you know were basically um trying to cover the war and provide the truth. Some were cut off the air. Yes. Um and um what was really interesting about the war was that um you know we had it in the textbooks in our history textbooks in the United States but it's always about you know the Ted offensive the US troops trying to save you know there was a very pious you know perspective of why the US had to come in um into Vietnam.
So what really made it interesting
the music the you know the music that was playing on the airwaves
really connected to listening to the other side and the opinions about the war which was we are seeing so many soldiers getting killed. We're sending off a lot of we were sending a lot of medical doctors out there too as well and um people to help out um But we lost a lot of lives, you know, and even soldiers did come back from the Vietnam War, you know, had serious um health issues. Some, you know, almost died. Um and um you know, this was the time when, you know, you had, you know, finally in 197374 when there was the realization that the US had did not even have a chance to win this war. Um and um but I was I'd definitely like to reflect back to 19 67 where we have
uh music that reflected that and also celebrated the summer of love. So
you know and we celebrated the summer of love. I know in the UK in Hyde Park there was the celebration of summer of love right Nick?
Yeah absolutely that was I mean Hide Park was the place to go. I think there was about a million people I think for one of the Stones concerts. Might not have been 67 that might have been 69 thinking about it but Yeah, certainly, you know, hundreds of thousands of people can get into to Hyde Park and, you know, Hrix came to London and it was it was the scene, you know, and and I think the the music reflects that. We had, of course, on the fashion side, we had Mary Quant
uh really came to prominence in in ' 67.
Um, and I think um I think I'm right in I can't think of which festival it was, but I was reading up that uh Jimmyi Hendris set fire his guitar.
One of I think it might have been might have been the 80th group one, not sure. You get him setting fire to his guitar. We got the who are on the playlist as well. They used to trash their instruments every single time. And there's a really funny story. I saw them being interviewed once. I believe it was recording an interview they had and basically they were sitting there and Roger Dolce was saying, you know, we sat there in front of our accountants and they were saying, you know, you've got no money, so please stop breaking your instruments. because every time, you know, you you you're touring and that's what's making you money, but then you're destroying the instruments as you're not making any. Um, and it wasn't until Tommy the uh the rock opera uh that they really started to make some serious serious wa some serious wed
really. It wasn't until Tommy. That's interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. Because
that was a great that was a great story line.
Mission, you know.
No, it's help. like Keith Moon driving Rolls-Royces into swimming pools and things like that.
Oh my gosh, they were that crazy. That is hysterical.
You know, they were that bonkers, but
they had great music.
I think one of my songs that I liked during that year from the Who was I could see for miles and miles, you know? No. And and what what was really fascinating when you mentioned about going back to the destructive mode of of The Who on stage, you know, again, it kind of reminds me about that punk rock kind of angst. attitude. But I will never forget seeing like early footage of Pete Townsen going up to the speaker and going,
you know, and destroying his guitar. I'm like I said, is that allowed on stage? I think I saw this like when I was a teenager. I was like, damn.
Yeah. How I'm How amazing.
And you're just like And then the speaker that's also on and you're just like or the amplifier like this is crazy.
What? Yeah. There's another song. There's another song on that album called uh called tattoo. I think it's called welcome to my life tattoo. All about all about going and getting a your first tattoo. I've not got any tattoos cuz I I'll be honest, I'm too scared to get one.
Oh wow.
Yeah. I of that was one of the songs I used to listen to a lot when I was in my early teens. Welcome to
Oh yes.
Great lyrics. Those are the days.
Those were the days. And you know when you look into the R&B scene, some of the greatest hits um were also released in 1967. That fabulous duet, you know, um Marvin Gay, Tammy Terrell, they know Mountain High, you know. By the way, there were different versions of that song sung um the Supremes. Diana Ross and the Supremes had their version of it.
But um do you know who was the uh the songwriting team that did um Ain't No Mountain High Enough?
No.
Ashford and Simpson.
No way.
Yeah. Yeah, they've been they've been a they've been a um you know a composer um you know husband and wife team for a very long time and that was one of the um songs that really um put a mark um for them on the top of the charts in No Mountain High Enough and of course you you hear different artists um singing that song and it's such a great song. Also we had one of the best songs I think in in R in R&B soul history is I'm a soul man by Sam and Dave Yes, that's a c. Yeah,
these are legendary songs.
Exactly. Even on weddings up to this day, if I attend a wedding, the the wedding bands play that song. I'm like, wow. You know, and so it gets y'all pumped. Gets everybody's like, "All right, everybody's eating. All right, let's now let's let's exercise. Let's get have the song. Let's" and everybody starts clapping. It's a great song. And then, you know, I was made to love her by Stevie Wonder. Oh,
he he seems to have been around forever. Steve, you wonder Mhm. And just listening to his beautiful harmonica, you know, while he performs his tunes, it's just amazing. And and look at him. This man is just a legend. And um you know, young looking, you know, listening to young Stevie on the radio and you know, nowadays when I listen to my Spotify, it's just it's very magical. Um
yeah, and it's such a unique voice as well. You you can you can tell almost by two things. One, the rhythm uh a bit of harmonica. Then that beautiful voice is absolutely incredible. Now, we have to say there are no Rolling Stones tracks on this on this year's playlist because their album the Dark the Satanic Majesty's request was a little bit of a weird one. I used to have it as a as a kid. I used to when I got into the Stones in my teens, I did kind of buy a lot of lot of buying a lot of albums. Went through a phase of getting some very rare ones. And I actually had the the album cover that had a a 3D um little 3D block on it.
Um moved it around and it was all
psychotic. So I was Yeah. I was like, "Wow, that was so cool." And people would come and go, "Oh my god." And then they'd actually listen to it and it's like, "Hm, bit weird."
Oh my goodness. But there was that beautiful track on that album um that we talked about earlier, you know,
where you Yeah. Color.
She's a rainbow, right? She's a rainbow. Yeah, that one.
Yep. And you know, major companies use that. I think it was Apple, if I'm not mistaken, that used it on one of their ads on television when they started with the iMac offering it in different colors. You know,
that's it. And that's the thing, you know, you think these things written in ' 67, recorded in ' 67, and then used, you know, 30, 40 years later. It's that's one of the things I love about music jokingly. You know, you can have it doesn't matter. You know, some tunes just fit the time, fit the right place.
Mhm.
Yeah. And and fit the right narrative. So, and that was one. But anyway, we haven't included it in the playlist because there are way better songs, not least Morrison. Brown Eyed Browneyed Girl 67.
Yes. Van Morrison. And I think he's he's from Ireland, right? Van Morrison. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't realize that song was was that old, but again, you hear it on the radio today. You really do.
Yeah. And I think it's a great song because it's got that, you know, and several songs have that kind of beat around that time, you know, that you just love,
it earmorms. than anyone else I can imagine. What else was going on um like politically in the states Jody? There was
so one thing for sure is that you know we were still going on the the civil rights movement was still going on um you know there was also you know in 1966 you had the um you know the post 65 um wave and then you know the right the 1965 the right to vote. Blacks had the right to vote. Now in 1967 what we saw was was the first appointment in the Supreme Court justice um African-American uh Thood Marshall 1967 and that was a monumental time um in African-American history. So, you know, here we are, you know, and keep in mind the marches in Selma and um it was so recent. I mean, you know, the civil rights movement dating back to the early 60s and now you move like five years, six years down the line and you get your first appointed African-American member in the Supreme Court justice and that's a monumental yes that was monumental uh point in African-American history and in just in American history in general you know for representation um but I mean one of the things I must say in 1967 as well was that um you know you also had the Monterey pop and then you had artists this is like now you're talking like years before Woodstock and this was a Pop California, one of the biggest outdoor concerts that you know you will see documentaries about um you see Japan, you see Jefferson Airplane, you know, you see the Who, you know, it's it's it's just and the Stones, you it's an it was an incredible um you know, all star lineup. Um and again, if people wanted to utilize a reference to how you know, music music was, you know, what represented that era for like the adulthood or the the teenage years or the adulthood of the baby boomers that period that you and I love.
Yeah, exactly.
From the 60s would be watching um you know um the documentary on Monterey pop.
Yeah, that would be fantastic. And you know I guess I guess that was really like the birth of the the mega festival.
Mhm. Everyone could come and come see a lot of you know a lot of CF tans
cap tans and you know you of course probably people were taking you know some some stuff while they were watching you know
yeah
um
but again that that led to this incredible creativity because whilst whilst full disclosure we I we don't uh partake um but particularly for um for creatives, you know, getting into that creative vibe then then that was the the the the way to do it back in the 60s. It was all certainly late 60s.
That's you know that's the period of psychedelia. And then when you when you even when you talk to people, you know, you talk to Gen Xers, millennials, baby boomers, and you just say psychedelia, they're like the hippie the hippies. The hippies.
Love and peace, man. Yeah. Yeah. And the daisies and then you know the rock that's is what I say rock music was and music in at that was art you know um it just it it really it really paved the way to people down the road and in the next years to um make an emphasis of you know the freedom of expression you know um on the airwaves. So I I I think you you've hit that you know on the nail uh with the whole thing. about experimentation and um you know freedom of expression in the psychedelic era
and and how did that manifest itself in in the US? I'm just thinking um of course you in the UK we had to have the pirate radio as you talked about earlier on in order to actually get the songs played. Were there were there issues I guess in the states didn't have a national radio like we had national radio in the UK.
So all your radio stations were funded by advertising I guess. And was there any push back from advertisers or were there were there new up and cominging advertisers which were like yeah let's embrace this old this whole fashion.
Well we did have um we do have national public radio which was is funded by you know uh the government. Um and then um you do have uh public radio stations that were supported by universities. Um we still have one from Forom University which is amazing that plays um great music and it plays an eclectic music. So you had that and then you had your local stations like I'm I'm talking on this perspective of New York you know where you had you know stations like WCBS which were affiliated you know we have WC you have WCBS on television network um and they were heavily funded by sponsors like WCBS um you had um WNW which was also affiliated with WW um channel 5 in New York City. So those stations in particular were funded by sponsors and you that's where you hear a lot of heavy like advertisements you know commercials radio commercials which you still do here nowadays
yeah but you and then NPR is is still around we do have national public radio and uh you know of course we have some university stations you know we have form university um and they're they're the best because they they provide music that like you would hear they have an hour of jazz you know They'd have an hour they have they have some on the hour of like funk like classic funk which I listen to. So you know and I would hear some songs like from the box tops um who were um they had that song um or the foundations I should say. It was the foundations and they came from the UK um and they were founded in the same year 1967. They had that beautiful song baby now that I found you know.
Oh love
love that song you know. So there was a sound that you see, you know, from like the rascals, the young rascals, you know, and then also with um, you know, the foundations about a certain groove that that, you know, culminated and, um, was notable in the late60s, you know, but, you know, one of the things that you talk about, um, the psychedelic moment, um, Nick, you and I talked about them in our past episodes, and I know we're going to talk about in the future, is the Moody Blues.
Yeah. Lights in white sat in scary for some young girls I believe. Jody, do you have to tell that story?
Especially first time I ever heard that song was when I was a toddler. My mom was listening. She goes, "Oh my god, this is such a beautiful song." I'm like, and you know, the orchestration and the guy's yearning, you know, the the vocalist, he's, you know, and I love you, you know, and he's like like he's yearning and moaning.
And I said I said, "Mommy, he's like he looks like he's getting killed. Shut it off. off, you know. So, but of course as as as t and my mom was like, "What's the matter? This is a great song." And I'm like, I'm like, "Oh, God, shut it off." And then, but as I got older, I listened to it. I also listened to an extended version of it where the orchestration was prolonged,
you know, it really got it really made me understood about how, you know, when the Moody Blues produced and recorded this, they really were um they had classical they had um exposure to classical music, you know, just listening to the song again and again, you know, I just uh was I I I I began to appreciate and then and my um my respect and admiration for that song grew as I got older. But of course, when I was young, that was a different story.
We we cannot we cannot ignore it any longer.
There was just the massive album, the massive band. They hadn't toured because they went into the studio While all those bands we were chatting about went to these amazing uh love festivals and and uh rock festivals, the Beatles went the other way. They went studio bound and that came up with Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and
beautiful.
Wow. It's just like I remember I remember first hearing it as a as a young teen. Uh I believe it was I had a friend who was the vicar's son. That's it.
Um And uh and yeah, we we he played it and I'm like, "Wow, that is unbelievable. I've never heard anything like it." And I don't think anyone had that that time. Um you know, we can roll off the the songs. The big one, of course, is All You Need Is Love. What an anthem.
Oh, that's Mhm. No, that was that album in itself was a masterpiece, you know, and um you know, one thing for sure is that it you know, when it had Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. It started, you know, with that and then we had what was the track that was right after it? Oh. Oh, Ringo sings. You know, you finally hear Ringo singing, you know, um, A Little Love from My Friends, you know. That's
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
It it segus into that and it's just incredible. You know, when I first heard that album, and I did not know this until later on, um, was that it sounded like a soundtrack.
Yes.
Yeah. It was, of course, we knew it was produced in the studio, but the album itself, you could tell when an album is produced for like a play, a soundtrack, you know,
this album sounded like it it was an album for a soundtrack to a spectacular film, you know. Um, and lo and behold, um, there was a film, um, called The Magical Mystery Tour, and that was a concept from Paul McCartney.
That album was a masterpiece. Um, You know, when I heard that album for the first time, I think I was about 13 years old.
Um, the full album. I mean, I've heard tracks of it. My mom was a huge Beatles fan. Um, you know, and, uh, she would sing some of the songs to me as Lullabis, you know, the Beatles tunes, believe it or not.
Yeah.
Uh,
what was really interesting was, um, when I heard that album from front to back, I said, "This sounds like a soundtrack. It sounds like a It sounds like a a soundtrack to a movie or to a play. Um but then I just found out that it was recently was um it they did a movie the Beatles did a movie later that year.
Yeah, of course.
Mhm. called Magic.
Exactly.
Roll up. Roll up. And you say yes. You were just saying about the fact that you really same as me, you know, you were 13 when you first heard the whole album and and what it was and you said it was like a soundtrack.
Um and Indeed, they created the magical mystery tour which was uh released in December 67 just inside our our year to talk about it. But there are some other incredible songs there. There was um uh when I'm 64 and it was just so different. Yeah. There was like the um the walrus.
I am the walrus. You are the man.
But you you know It's like when you hear that song, you're like, "Okay, you know, they were experimenting with some drug in there, you know, when they wrote that song."
Yeah. That makes no sense at all.
It's funny because I did have a conversation with my mom about that song, right? And I said, "Mom, is this was this song written for children?" She goes, "What do you mean?" And she's like, "I am the Eggman or the Walrus Cuckoo Kachu." And she's like I said I said, "Would somebody did it?" She's like, "No, Jod, that was just an artistic um freedom. of expression song. You know, they're experimenting and
I mean, but how cool experimenting and then recording it so we could enjoy.
Exactly.
Yeah. There were other there were other ones. I think we mentioned Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
I love that song.
It's beautiful song. Absolutely beautiful song. And I I recently saw a documentary about another song on this album. It's going to come to me. A day in the life.
Yes. used a day. Oh boy, that one.
That's a great song. That's that's one of my favorite songs.
Oh, well, if you ever get the chance to watch this documentary, I'll try and find it and link it in the show notes.
Mhm.
Basically, it was it was John's song and he got part of it and and they weren't sure where it was going to go, so they literally wrote some bars and said like in this bar we're going to something, but we don't know what yet. Uh and then he asked Paul if he had a song that he was working on. Um Paul said, "Oh, yeah, he did, but he wasn't sure." And so he said, "Okay, let's put that in
Uhhuh."
the side of it. And then he went back and it was and that's why it works so beautifully. It's just it is two songs into one,
but they did it so cleverly
that uh that Yeah. Amazing. Amazing.
Yep. That's the magic.
Yeah. And that's that's the joy of of of taking that decision to be more studiobased because they knew they couldn't they couldn't produce the music they wanted if they were just the four of them or you know or on a on a stage makes it very much more difficult to to do. So
yeah
and I'll have to double check where they recorded it because it might have been at Happy Road. I'm not sure.
Well, you know where what that album was the masterpiece and it's actually one of my favorite albums. I remember when I was when I when I was listening to that album for the first time But also the track that I love was Hello Good. I know it's
you know mainstream. But it that song can I tell you even when I was whether I listened to it on a CD or when I got older um you know or listening I would always rewind that song you know because it was such an upbeat song. Um and uh yeah but when you just reminded me of a lot of the you know experimental works that were in that album you know I I could tell you it that album really really took you on a journey and that's
that's why yeah that's why you would think that that album was actually a soundtrack to some film more and more than just an album itself which it it was a masterpiece.
Speaking of going on a journey, we've also got a couple of other songs in the playlist. One of my favorites is Waterloo Sunset and that's a journey going around London. So if you're if you're a big fan of London, I used to uh work up in London quite a lot back in old days. Um, yeah, my I say my favorite city in the sunshine, my least favorite city in the rain. But no, London in the sunshine. Can't beat it. Um, so yeah. So, Waterloo Sunset, Waterloo, part of London. Really lovely. And then of course you can go to Ichy Koop
with the new face.
I by small fa that I I love that song too. That is just the chorus. When I was young, when I was a little kid, the first time I heard that song on the radio, the part is when they go, "You're so Oh, you're so beautiful." You know,
I love that chorus. And I thought that was I thought that was the title of the song. And And it's funny.
I thought you were going to say, "Yeah, I thought they were singing it to me."
No, I just It's such It's just such a a song of celebration. And um you know, that song to me resonated a lot, you know, in regards to um you know, childhood. when I was watching some shows on PBS. I think it was either um was it Sesame Street or The Electric Company, they had some segments um with songs at the time and they would do a rendition of it and that song came up. So that is a song that will always be reflective of my childhood to um Small Faces Ichu Park a little bit.
Wow.
Yeah. And I have a question for you Jody. When Good point. When did Sesame Street start? 1968
next week then
and you had um major actors who um basically from PBS from shows like electric company and Sesame Street um you had Rita Moreno.
Oh
they from Electric Company um you know um Morgan Friedman also from Electric Company too as well. So um children's shows brought um from PBS brought like you know the career of, you know, his visibility nationwide to major um actors.
Wow. That's in Well, well, can't wait. We'll have to have we'll have to cover a little bit of that next weekend. 1968. We'll have a little segue into into the Sesame Street.
Everybody loves Sesame Street, you know. Yeah, it was a US, but we got it in the UK as well. Big Bird. Ah,
man.
Yeah,
it was just the best. And what the what's today's letter? He was only one of 26. Let's be honest,
they don't.
The only confusing thing thing would be if it was Z and like us in England, we're going see Z. Haven't got a letter Z. Oh, zed.
Zed. Yes.
Um, so we've had the summer of love. You had your first uh AfricanAmerican Supreme Court judge.
We had Mary Quant in the UK. We had Pirate Radio started. We had the birth of these mega festivals, the Hendris, man. Absolutely incredible. Any Have we missed anything off?
And the the the world of psychedelia psychedelia psychedelia, you know, it was like a most like a it was like the baby boomers renaissance. You know what? If you think about because they're adults at this point, right?
Yeah.
They were teenagers. Teenagers. They were like teenagers adults that this was the emergence of their adulthood. But and this is was their realm of creativity, you know, when it comes to, you know, that period of that era in music and in fashion and in art. And then it what a what an incredible year. So, and and I was just going to say um and as a reminder to um the audience u it would be wonderful um if you guys can take the time to click on the link. We do have the um um additional Spotify list dedicated um to this year 1967. I hope that you all enjoy it. It is a very it's an incredible incredible list. And also um you know, thank you for those for everyone who's been listening and um you know, continue to subscribe. Let other people know. Uh we do have we're we're also um we're also on um on iTunes um and we're also um on Spotify as well. the show. So, um we definitely um thank everybody for their immense support and we continue to entertain and enlighten and enjoy uh with all of you out there.
Absolutely. And again, if you've got any suggestions, we've had some fantastic feedback from people loving it. If you've got any suggestions for the songs you want, so for next week, it's going to be 1968. Do let us know. Um and you know, we'll try and accommodate you cuz this is whilst Yeah, this is this is Jo and I chatting him away. But this is our our love letter to our our youth.
See you on the next episode, everyone. Next next episode will be featuring the year 1968.
68 here we come. Jody, thank you so much as always for chatting to me about music. Your knowledge is incredible. And uh yeah, 68. Everybody, we will see you on the next podcast or hear you on the next podcast.
See you on the next. Exactly. What? Bye everybody. Nick.
Bye everybody. Hey. Hey. Hey.
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